rubykatewriting: (Feminism Is Not a Dirty Word)
rubykatewriting ([personal profile] rubykatewriting) wrote2008-02-22 09:41 am

Is so CONFUZZLED.

The Guid, who normally makes me just shake my head with her stupidity, had me going all out *headdesk* this morning. She made this very defensive comment – we were discussing the debate – that she was voting for Hillary and that she has her "reasons." She continued to bluster on about how Obama supporters have been attacking Hillary supporters, and I was like, "It goes both ways, [name redacted to protect the terminally stupid]. There are a lot of so-called feminists attacking their fellow females because they aren't automatically supporting Hillary, basically calling them anti-woman. Just because I possess a vagina DOES NOT mean I have to support the sole vagina-possessin' candidate. That goes against everything I stand for as a feminist." So then I asked her why she was supporting Hillary because I honestly wanted to know and she responded with (I SHIT YOU NOT): "This country isn't ready for a black president."

Of course, she isn’t the only POC I’ve heard this from. BibleThumper’s daughter-in-law is convinced that if Obama is elected that he’ll be assassinated and doesn’t want to see him in office. She's experienced a lot of rascism here (especially from BibleThumper's in-laws, against their own great-grandchild) to the point that she wants to return to California so I can understand why her view is slanted that way, but I don't think Hillary would be in any less danger as a female president. Women aren't exactly on top of the world at the moment. (I mean, FUCK. The KKK endorced OBAMA because "anyone is better than Hillary." [Redacted: apparently this is one of the many rumors making the rounds about my Obama.] She'd be in danger, it would just be from DIFFERENT fucktarded factions.)

[identity profile] briary-flower.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't appreciate being called "terminally stupid" or "a so-called feminist" because I tried to have a conversation with you about how much ground women have lost due to the anti-feminist backlash. And I really don't appreciate being called "a so-called feminist" by someone who doesn't self-identify as a feminist because, and I quote, "(she) can see both sides of the issue." Reducing the debate to "vagina-possessin'" isn't a whole lot different than a man calling a woman a cunt to silence her and win an argument.

Do you think I want Hilary Clinton to be the next American president? She's no friend to my people. If I understand correctly she has in the past advocated building a wall around your country. The last time anybody did that it was called East Germany. Was it Shirley Chisholm who said that her sex was a larger impediment to her political life than the colour of her skin? Someone has to integrate the U.S. presidency, and Clinton might as well be the person to take that bullet.

[identity profile] rubykatewriting.livejournal.com 2008-02-25 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoa whoa whoa. WHAT? This has nothing to do with our conversation from several weeks back. Our conversation? MADE ME THINK ABOUT MY STANCE.

I just don't even know what to do with this.